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Olho seco. Podcast series by Jorge Menna Barreto. Episode 2. Graphic design: Joe Buggilla

Dry Eye episode 2

Jorge Menna Barreto

The podcast series Olho Seco (Dry Eye) is a sonic and sensitive journey that connects our eyes to the planet in times of climate crisis. In three episodes, artist and researcher Jorge Menna Barreto invites us to listen with our eyes closed, bringing together science, literature, and the visual arts to rethink how we see the world. From dry eye syndrome to the aridification of ecosystems, from the poetry of João Cabral de Melo Neto to the work of visual artists exploring the invisible, the series reveals how “dryness” can be a way of seeing, feeling, and responding to the socioenvironmental emergency. Between tears, rain, memories, verses, and non-retinal images, Olho Seco proposes rehydrating our perception and relearning how to see—with vision, listening, memory, and imagination—to perhaps reinvigorate our ability to respond to the current environmental crisis.

Episode 2:

In the second episode of the Olho Seco podcast, we follow the invitation made in the first: listen with your eyes closed, allowing the words, voices, and sounds to open up space for internal images and a sensory immersion. In this episode, Jorge Menna Barreto leads us on a poetic and critical investigation of drought and the climate crisis, drawing on the work of Brazilian poet João Cabral de Melo Neto, a modern poet who transformed aridity into both a poetic language and style. With readings by the poet Sophia Faustino, reflections by Professor Ari Vidal, and dialogues with the writer and critic Cristhiano Aguiar, we revisit Cabral’s mineral verses, his encounters between theme and form, and his rejection of facile lyricism, to understand how the “dry” unfolds into rigor and clarity. Drawing on travel memories, recorded walks in California, analyses of Cabral’s poems such as “The Engineer,” “Education Through Stone,”and “The Dog Without Feathers,” and even contributions from writer Ana Rusche on literature, speculative fiction, and utopias, this episode proposes a close look at the power of words in times of aridification and socioenvironmental crisis. As Cabral teaches us, more than resignedly accepting the dry, we must use it as a way of seeing and, above all, responding to the world.

Podcast audio (currently only available in Portuguese) can be accessed here: [Link Episode 2]

Transcripts in English and Portuguese can be accessed here: [PDFs Episode 2]

Credits

Olho seco is a creation of Jorge Menna Barreto with support from Mesa Institute. The project received a Seed Grant from the Office of Research at the University of California, Santa Cruz, in the United States.

Coordination is by Karina Sérgio Gomes.
Sophia Faustino is our research assistant.
Karina, Sophia and Jorge wrote the script for this episode.
The soundscape, sound mixing and editing are by Bruno Bonaventure for Sound Design.
The graphic design is by Joe Buggilla.
Factchecking by Gabriela Erbetta.
Translation is by Jessica Gogan.

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Jorge Menna Barreto‘s practice explores site-specificity as a constantly evolving relationship between art, ecology, and language. His work stems from a deep listening of materials, stories, and landscapes, fostering collaborations with diverse knowledge and communities. Jorge is a professor in the art department at the University of California, Santa Cruz, where he teaches the master’s program in environmental art and social practice. He is a collaborator in the graduate arts program at UERJ. For more information: @jmennabarreto and https://jorggemennabarreto.com/

Karina Sérgio Gomes is a journalist with a master’s degree in Visual Arts and a PhD in Art and Education from the Institute of Arts at Unesp. She has worked as curator at Atelier 397, MAM-SP, and CCSP. As a journalist, she has collaborated with publications such as Rádio Novelo Apresenta, Folha de S.Paulo, Metrópoles, and Estadão. In 2025, she won the IAC Research Training Grant. She currently writes art reviews for the website NeoFeed and researches Brazilian art for the Itaú Cultural Encyclopedia.

Sophia Faustino is a poet, professor and researcher. She received her undergraduate degree in literature (FFLCH) and masters in art history (PGEHA) from the University of São Paulo. She is the author of Alavenca Esfinge (2019) and Nunca me esqueço que venho dos trópicos (2022). She is part of the feminist interventionist arts collective Vozes Agudas and the study group  Gênero, Arte, Artefatos e Imagens (GAAI-USP). She currently works as a curatorial assistant and researcher for cultural projects.